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WAV to OGG Conversion

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 1:25 am
by sonicwmat
I have v5.23. I open a wav file but when I go to save as...I can choose FLAC, MP3, etc., but not .OGG....seems the vorbis dll's are in the Goldwave directory...not sure what I'm missing or doing wrong.

Matt

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 3:42 pm
by DougDbug
NOTE - I've never actually used OGG.

Try upgrading to Version 5.25. OGG seems to now be automatically included in the installtion.

And if you just want to convert between different formats (without editing), XRECODE (FREE!!!) is very handy.

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 4:05 pm
by sonicwmat
I sent an email to GW support and Chris replied and indicated that perhaps my computer cannot utilize the vorbis dll. I can see the dll is present in the GW directory - but alas the ogg option is not selectable in GW. Chris suggested trying an older vorbis dll - but I'm unsure of which to use from rareware.com. I do have a rather older computer (1.2ghz AMD Athlon)....I could be wrong, but perhaps ogg dll's only work with Athlon64/Intel P4 and above???

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 5:11 pm
by sonicwmat
I upgraded to v5.24 and same thing no ogg conversion....does seem CPU related as Chris suggested?

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 7:16 pm
by DougDbug
Chris is the expert!
I do have a rather older computer (1.2ghz AMD Athlon)
:lol: That's not old! ....At work, I have a GoldWave nstalled on a 200MHz Pentium running Windows 98!* It was running 5.23, and I just upgraded it to 5.25. It has the same problem as you're having... It doesn't show OGG as a "save-as" option either (with either version of GoldWave).

However, when I installed on a ~2GHz AMD "Simpron" system running Windows 2000, I do see the OGG option.


* It's not supposed to run on Win98. I've never run across any problems with it, but I don't use that computer for GoldWave that much. (I'm not using it for my job... just occasionally fooling around in my "spare time".)

WAV to OGG Conversion on older CPU's

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 10:33 pm
by sonicwmat
Fascinating...Chris' suggestion worked!. I simply downloaded and installed v5.08, snagged the oggfile.pig from that installation and put it in the directory for my v5.23, deleted v5.08, and viola'...oggriffic!!

Now, I could be late coming to the party, but I haven't done much audio compression codec comparisons, but I am rather shocked that, even with the newest lame dll, 320kbs MP3 is simply not as good as 320kbs Ogg....I'm kind of shocked...same size files, better audio quality...sup with that? Have I missed the memo?

Matt

No problems with OGGs.....

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 3:00 pm
by hollingw
Hello:
I have 5.25 and just save both a wav file and an mp3 as Vorbis OGG.

Maybe you are missing all or part of the CODEC. Try getting the CODEC from Vorbis and try again.

Hope it works for you....

RH

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 3:46 am
by The Great Watbol!
DougDbug wrote:Chris is the expert!
I do have a rather older computer (1.2ghz AMD Athlon)
:lol: That's not old! ....At work, I have a GoldWave nstalled on a 200MHz Pentium running Windows 98!* It was running 5.23, and I just upgraded it to 5.25. It has the same problem as you're having... It doesn't show OGG as a "save-as" option either (with either version of GoldWave).

However, when I installed on a ~2GHz AMD "Simpron" system running Windows 2000, I do see the OGG option.


* It's not supposed to run on Win98. I've never run across any problems with it, but I don't use that computer for GoldWave that much. (I'm not using it for my job... just occasionally fooling around in my "spare time".)
I have it installed on a P3=1000Mhz... I see the .OGG, it's right under the FLAC option (the very last item in the lsit)
But, I use Win-XP.SP2.
I also have it installed on a P-II -300Mhz with Win-ME... I see .OGG and .WMA under the FLAC option. The WMA is not available in the XP one, for some reason. That machine don't even open .WMA's for me.
:shock:

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 12:44 pm
by DewDude420
Ogg is a funny creature.

I won't swear to it, but I believe it's got to do with the version of ogg dll you've got. There's a standard version and tuned/enhanced versions and sometimes Goldwave wants to work with one, but not the other.

Vista and Win7 on my laptop have Ogg and they're 5.25. If one tries REALLY hard they can get the stuff running on winfw 3.11....but like anyone uses that anymore (I was bored and playing around on a virtual machine. Did you know the ISO for 3.1 is only 11 megs?)

Codecs...they're a great idea till they start conflicting and leaving you confused.

Re: WAV to OGG Conversion on older CPU's

Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 2:05 am
by GoldWave Inc.
Recent versions of GoldWave use an accelerated version of the libvobis.dll file, which may not be compatible with all processors (especially older ones). The OggFile.pig plug-in checks to make sure the processor is compatible. It disables the plug-in if it isn't.

Older versions of GoldWave included a non-accelerated version, which works on any processor but is much slower.

Chris

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2009 10:56 pm
by The Great Watbol!
How recent are we talking┬┐? (v5.25)
Is that the old non accellerated version, or the new accellerated version┬┐?
I have an OLD processor, pIII-1000 and things seem to work for me.

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:53 pm
by GoldWave Inc.
I believe it was changed to an accelerated DLL in v5.13.

Chris